GOMAD or Die Trying

[atypical1]

Agree on your take regarding the diet. I don't think there's questions simply because there's nothing to "get". Eat a bunch of calories and you'll gain weight.

That is a lot of weight you've gained. You will soon be at your goal. What's next? When you achieve your weight goal are you going to maintain? Lean out?

james

[joesterizer]

I'm actually almost bang-on my goal weight right now: 185lbs. But having read Bluesteak's post a couple times, and a few others, I'm going to overshoot by 10lbs in order to account for water/fat loss afterwards.

But yeah, the goal will be to maintain at around 185 until I hit my goals of 2xBW Deadlift, 1.5xBW squat, and 1.2xBW bench press, all for 3x5.

I've already incorporated Tabata at the end of workout B in order to retard fat gain, and I might increase that to after every workout after I drop the milk. I want to see my lower abs eventually.

[wrenchhands]

Nice job dude. As a 5'11, sub 170er, I think I could use a solid GOMAD round. I'm thinking of going from this upcoming thursday until august 31st.

[lovestolift]

Well done so far, Joe. I miss the simplicity of GOMAD. Is the plan to go back to the AD when you hit your goal?

[PZilla]

Milk is awesome. I know alot of my vegan female friends would vomit at the thought of a gallon of milk a day!

When I played high school football GOMAD was standard fare for the incoming freshmen and pretty much the ENTIRE JV team. If you guys are familiar with Pittsburgh Steelers LBer Lawrence Timmons we played around the same time in high school. And I sware that guy must have done GOMAD 4 months out of the year! He ballooned in size and LBM from his junior to senior year.

Good luck man. I am on the opposite end of things. But I am curious as to how you guys shop and plan for almost 4k of calories a day?

How much of that is milk? whats your average daily meals like?

[wrenchhands]

I thing of whole milk is like, what, 2250 cals?

After that, just mix in a bunch of steak, chicken, tuna, eggs, oatmeal, rice and whatever veggies I feel like getting from the store.

I live about .5 miles from a grocery store too, so, it makes it easy.

[joesterizer]

@ Wrenchhands: Thanks man. I live across a parking lot from a Safeway, so shopping is easy for me too.

@ Pzilla: The milk I buy is 2650 Kcal per gallon, and since I want to eat 5000 kcal/day all I need to eat is 2400 kcal worth of food, which isn't much.

4 eggs with veggies and salsa
1 chicken breast
1/2 cup almonds
Salad/veggies
2 tbsp olive oil
2 cans of tuna
3 scoops protein powder.

That it what I have been eating almost every day. Sub out the salad with dinner for whole wheat pasta and alfredo sauce on days I work out. Equals approximately 5000 calories.

@ LTL: Thanks for stopping by! Although I know that I can lose fat fast on the Anabolic diet, the hit my wallet takes is excessive. I'm starting law school in the fall, and so I will probably follow Precision Nutrition, which is essentially what I'm doing along with GOMAD at the moment.


Weight update: 183.4 lbs. Pretty level at the moment. If it doesn't go up in a few days, I guess I need to increase my food to 5500 kcal a day :S

[lovestolift]

[quote="joesterizer"]
Although I know that I can lose fat fast on the Anabolic diet, the hit my wallet takes is excessive.....so I will probably follow Precision Nutrition.
/quote]
Wow, the AD must be expensive if PN is the cheaper alternative. I find PN to be a bit expensive sometimes. It's certainly more expensive than eating a lot of carbs all the time. Either way, good luck.

[joesterizer]

Wow, the AD must be expensive if PN is the cheaper alternative. I find PN to be a bit expensive sometimes. It's certainly more expensive than eating a lot of carbs all the time. Either way, good luck.

Eating a lot of carbs is not really an option for me. Since doing PN the first time, and then the AD, eating a lot of oatmeal/potatoes/rice etc. makes me feel a little sick. My body doesn't like the starchy carbs anymore.

As for the AD, it can be reasonable if you just eat ground beef every day (like I did), but if you want decent cuts of beef its way too pricey. Gourmet Nutrition has some good recipes for pretty cheap (Turkey sausage casserole comes to mind. I loved that).

[joesterizer]

Aesthetic update:

I look and feel chubby by the end of the day. It's 7pm right now and I just checked my BF%, and my caliper says i'm ~18%. So....

Before GOMAD: 173 at 15% is 147.05 lbs LBM.

Now: 183 at 18% is 150.06 lbs LBM

SO total weight gain is 10 pounds, and total muscle gains is 3lbs.

That's a 30% muscle-to-fat ratio, which is heavy on the fat, which i see on my belly. I think I am going to curb my calories down to 4500 per day and see if I still progress.

[joesterizer]

Analyzed my food log. Easiest thing to do is just ditch the half cup of almonds each day, which would put me at about 4600 kcal.

Store I just went to didn't have a tape measure. This is getting annoying...

[markg]

It's interesting to see the high fat/lbm ratio. How confident are you in your body fat measurements? I guess 1% would make a big difference to the figures.

[joesterizer]

It's interesting to see the high fat/lbm ratio. How confident are you in your body fat measurements? I guess 1% would make a big difference to the figures.

Not very confident. Just re-measured this morning, and it said 17%, and the tool has a margin of error of 1%. From how I look I think 17% is probably more accurate, but who knows.

My new "scientific" way of determining if I'm putting on too much fat is when I can no longer see my top two rows of abs when I flex.

Until then... full steam ahead.

[joesterizer]

If my new measurements are accurate:

184 lbs @ 17% BF = 152.72lbs LBM.

That makes it 5 pounds out of 11, or almost 50% muscle-to-fat. Much more acceptable. This might be variation in the measurements comparing night to morning, so I will continue to measure only in the morning for consistency.

[PZilla]

I bet the people at the grocery store think you have like 100 cats or a weird milk fetish.