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Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby holvoetn » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:57 pm


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Vlad wrote:
Three hours after the workout I'm still feeling beaten.


Nice workout!


+1 :D :twisted:
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SQ 1RM 170kg/374lbs / BP 1RM 90kg/198lbs / OHP 1RM 67.5kg/148.5lbs / BBR 1RM 115kg/253lbs / DL 1RM 210kg/462lbs

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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby groundskeeperwillie » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:11 pm

Hi guru. New routine seems to be coming along nicely, even if it is early days yet. :D


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188cm · 99kg · 44yo · PR: Squat 110kg · Bench 77.5kg · OHP 52.5kg · Row 67.5kg · Deadlift 1x5x147.5kg
Did I mention, I HATE OHP!
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby guru » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:11 pm

Vlad, H, you guys are sadists. :P

Yo willie, nice to see you man. Early days indeed. Let's see what lies ahead.

Week 2 - OHP day - 25/09/09

OHP - 27.5 kg - 1x3, 32.5 kg - 1x3, 37.5 kg - 1x8.
Pull ups - 10x3.
Seated D/B press - 12.5 kg each - 3x12.

The OHP numbers are a joke, due to my low 1 RM. The top set today is just below 37.5 kg& the top set next week is just above it. Since I don't have microloading facility, they both round off to 37.5 kg. :roll: Anyway, glad to get the bar up 8 times here. Hopefully the 1 RM situation improves.

Pull ups were definitely harder today than last week. I think last Friday was a damn good day.

Upped the weight on the seated D/B presses & it went up well. Tough, but no sticking around. Will keep this for this cycle & move up to 15 kg on the next cycle.

End of week 2. So far, so good. I've managed to be regular and the workouts have been satisfying.
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Current 1RMs - Squat 100 kg, Bench 65 kg, DL 125 kg, OHP 45 kg
Goals (2010) - Squat 120 kg, Bench 80 kg, DL 150 kg, OHP 60 kg
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby KIB » Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:08 am

End of week 2. So far, so good. I've managed to be regular and the workouts have been satisfying.

Great stuff, Guru!
8 reps at 37.5 on the OHP is nothing to sniff at.
As you say, only two weeks in. But you've established the groundwork and proven the effort.
Going to be some big changes for you on this program, I'm sure.
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BW: 200lb / 90.9kg
Squat: 297lb / 135kg 5x5
DL: 341.7lb / 155kg 1x5
BP: 187.4lb / 85kg 5x5
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby holvoetn » Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:27 am

Keep the good sessions coming, Guru.
Looking good so far.

guru wrote:Vlad, H, you guys are sadists. :P

Thank you very much :D
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby guru » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:46 am

Thanks KIB & H,

Going to enjoy the short rest before I get into Week 3.
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Goals (2010) - Squat 120 kg, Bench 80 kg, DL 150 kg, OHP 60 kg
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby MikeD » Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:05 pm

It was probably the 8-reps on the press that made the pull ups harder. One of the reasons I actually moved them to bench day. Good work though, I didn't like having to humble myself by cutting the weight on the OHP either.
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Squat: 320 x 3
Deadlift: 440 x 1
Bench: 223 x 3
Overhead: 135 x 5
Power Clean: 210 x 1
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby mjh » Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:20 am

good lifting Guru, you're becoming a real pocket rocket.

Who is the guy in your avatar, btw? I'm assuming some old-timey Indian strongman. I know you guys have a strongman tradition, but I don't know a lot about it.
29yo; 189cm; 95kg| SQ: 100kg, 5x5 | DL: 135kg, 1x5 | OHP: 37.5kg, 5x5

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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby guru » Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:18 am

Thanks for dropping by MikeD. What you say might be true about the pull ups.

Mickey, that is The Great Gama, an old time Indian wrestler. Today looks like your logs visit day. :wink:
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Guru's 2nd Log
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Current 1RMs - Squat 100 kg, Bench 65 kg, DL 125 kg, OHP 45 kg
Goals (2010) - Squat 120 kg, Bench 80 kg, DL 150 kg, OHP 60 kg
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby mjh » Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:28 am

guru wrote:Today looks like your logs visit day. :wink:


Thanks for the link Guru. Indeed I have been doing the rounds today. I often feel guilty that I don't keep up on logs as much as I'd like to. They are, after all, where some of the real value of a forum such as this one lies.

EDIT: I've been sucked into a wiki-black hole starting from the Great Gama, heading into Pehlwani and beyond.
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby guru » Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:58 am

I've been sucked into a wiki-black hole starting from the Great Gama, heading into Pehlwani and beyond.
Haha, I've got company.
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Guru's 2nd Log
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Current 1RMs - Squat 100 kg, Bench 65 kg, DL 125 kg, OHP 45 kg
Goals (2010) - Squat 120 kg, Bench 80 kg, DL 150 kg, OHP 60 kg
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby guru » Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:49 pm

Week 3 actually starts tomorrow, & I was supposed to enjoy the two days' rest before that, but tomorrow is Vijayadashami, a festival day & the gym is closed. So had to get my ass up there today.

Week 3 - Squat day - 27/09/09

Squat - 60 kg - 1x5, 70 kg - 1x3, 77.5 kg - 1x6.
Front squats - 50 kg - 3x10.
Good Mornings - 50 kg - 3x12.

First set of squats felt heavy & I was afraid for a moment that today might be a bad day, but the second set was better & the top set was beautiful. I never expected to get 6 reps there, and the bar didn't slow down for the first five.

Front squats were agony. I have never felt like puking while lifting weights, but today was close. When the second set was over, I was thinking of reducing the weight for the third one, but just rested a bit more & did it. My wrists were not happy at all though.

After getting a few pointers from James & Muddy on these, I was much more conscious of my technique & the first set was a bit of experimenting. I realized that in Week 1 & 2, I was keeping the knees locked out & as such felt them mainly in the hamstrings. Today I allowed them to bend a little & felt these much less in the hams. There was that funny feeling again in the right lower back (not exactly pain), but it has almost subsided now.

A good beginning of Week 3.
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Current 1RMs - Squat 100 kg, Bench 65 kg, DL 125 kg, OHP 45 kg
Goals (2010) - Squat 120 kg, Bench 80 kg, DL 150 kg, OHP 60 kg
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby MikeD » Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:25 pm

Squat, front squats, AND good mornings?! You're a madman.

Just a question, do you notice any assymetries when you do good mornings? My hips shift a bit to the right when I go back, and I have to consciously make sure everything's in balance every rep.
MikeD's 5/3/1 Training Log
Age:18 Height:5"8 Weight: 162
Lifts acheived (lbs):
Squat: 320 x 3
Deadlift: 440 x 1
Bench: 223 x 3
Overhead: 135 x 5
Power Clean: 210 x 1
Power Snatch 145 x 1
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby Kathy » Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:45 pm

Geez Guru....you've become a lifting machine :lol: 3x10 of front squats? :shock:

On the GM's, did you find the bar rolling toward your head or did you do something to prevent that? I really like doing these but I never feel fully in control of the bar which is a bit disconcerting. Where do you place the bar? Where it is for a back squat or higher up on your neck?

Enjoy your holiday...I'll have to look that up on Wikipedia! Between you and mjh I am getting quite an education :D
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Re: Guru's 2nd Training Log - Experiments with 5-3-1.

Postby MikeD » Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:05 pm

I've been putting it on my traps (only 110 lbs so far), and gripping the bar hard. You shouldn't have too much of a problem if you're putting your hips WAY back instead of bending over.

I've heard the low bar position advocated in general, however. I'm going to try it today.
MikeD's 5/3/1 Training Log
Age:18 Height:5"8 Weight: 162
Lifts acheived (lbs):
Squat: 320 x 3
Deadlift: 440 x 1
Bench: 223 x 3
Overhead: 135 x 5
Power Clean: 210 x 1
Power Snatch 145 x 1
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