Looks like medhi doesn't support GOMAD anymore

[JCsBck]

http://stronglifts.com/gain-weight-lose ... ow-method/

Look at his first mistake.

[atypical1]

Where did you get that he didn't support GOMAD? I'm going to assume that you missed this part in the article.

If you’re under-weight, gain weight using a faster method like GOMAD first. Here are some minimum weights depending on you height.

To me that sounds like he still supports GOMAD. Did you interpret that differently?

james

[NotNowChief]

Just seems like he has different advice up for people who have different goals, requiring different nutrional approaches.

Alot of skinny people just want to get bigger and they want to do it quick. Gomad is perfect for that. Just about the quickest way to add the most muscle, size and strength. If you are already really lean, sick of being so skinny and want to get big quick then gomad is for you.

But Mehdi recognises that not everyone is comfortable with that or is starting from that position. They really want to stay lean or are already a little tubby but with no muscle.
Some people don't mind if it takes a few more months to add size so long as they stay pretty lean doing it. So he posts an alternative approach. Doesn't mean gomad doesn't have a place or that he wouldn't still recommend it, depending exactly what your goals are.

It's an alternative to the established bulk/cut muscle building methods.

[jakemcmillan]

I don't understand why you think this is a mistake. Mehdi reads through the forums and realizes that many people have a problem with gaining fat while trying to gain weight; many people want to minimize fat gains. Therefore, Mehdi gives the solution to the problem.

[lovestolift]

I would think that the title of the article would have cleared up any misconceptions about this issue. After all it is called 'How to gain weight without gaining fat:The slow method.'

[Mehdi]

http://stronglifts.com/gain-weight-lose-fat-muscle-slow-method/

Look at his first mistake.

If you want to know if I still support GOMAD, then simply ask it instead of putting words in my mouth.

GOMAD remains the way to go for "hardgainers".

[wrenchhands]

Medhi: If you have acne, but you wanna gain weight... where does your opinion fall on that one?

[jakemcmillan]

I did GOMAD and didn't see too much difference in acne, but I avoid milk all together now. I say if you buy some high quality ezekiel bread, eat a decent amount of steak, eat lots of almonds/other nuts, bananas, you can gain a good amount of weight the clean way.

But drink lots of water, take fish oil, get lots of sun(if you can right now), take zinc...Mehdi made a post on acne.

[wrenchhands]

My acne ain't bad, because I get good sleep, avoid hair grease, don't wash my face with soap (it helps), don't pick at my fave, and shave right.

[jackthelad]

Hi Medhi,

Could you please explain how the diet you mentioned (example) http://stronglifts.com/gain-weight-lose ... ow-method/ comes to 4500kcal? That seems a diet for around 3000k max. From what I see you have apples and banana's in there - not the highest in calories although healthy. Would be grateful for some kind of clarification.

Thanks

[Mehdi]

Hi Medhi,

Could you please explain how the diet you mentioned (example) http://stronglifts.com/gain-weight-lose ... ow-method/ comes to 4500kcal? That seems a diet for around 3000k max. From what I see you have apples and banana's in there - not the highest in calories although healthy. Would be grateful for some kind of clarification.

Thanks

If you're only getting 3000kcal, you need to increase portion size.

[JCsBck]

I don't understand why you think this is a mistake. Mehdi reads through the forums and realizes that many people have a problem with gaining fat while trying to gain weight; many people want to minimize fat gains. Therefore, Mehdi gives the solution to the problem.

I didn't say he made a mistake. That's what Mehdi called eating too much. Read the article before you start to kiss his ass.

You used to say you would only get a 2-3% bodyfat increase, but now you are saying eating too much will just cause fat gains and not muscle? I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm reading between the lines.

You're contradicting yourself saying telling people to do gomad to gain mostly muscle, but then saying eating too many calories will just cause fat gains. Where is this 2-3% fat gain number coming from then? A gallon of milk is 2400 calories. You're telling people to add it to their normal diet. So people are just going to gain mostly fat from it. But you also say they will only gain 2-3% more body fat. How is that possible? You're suggesting "hard-gainers" just get fat? Why not just drink half a gallon then, and not get the fat?

You suggested the one guy eat a minimum of 5000 calories a day, and one day you were proud of him for eating 9000 calories? You definitely had a change of heart. Of course, since this is your site, nobody is going to agree with me, but whatever. It's common sense.

Oh what about the guy who drank 2 gallons of milk and people thought he was on steroids?

[Love_Deadlifts]

Look at his first mistake.

Looks an awful lot like you did say he made a mistake.

[mjh]

I didn't say he made a mistake. That's what Mehdi called eating too much. Read the article before you start to kiss his ass.

Drop the personal attacks, please. No need for it.

but now you are saying eating too much will just cause fat gains and not muscle? I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm reading between the lines.

You are putting words in his mouth, because the article you're referring to doesn't say eating too much will result in only fat and no muscle. It says the amount of muscle gain from increasing your daily intake by 2000 cals won't necessarily be greater than that gained by a 1000 cal increase, but the amount of fat gained will.

You're contradicting yourself saying telling people to do gomad to gain mostly muscle, but then saying eating too many calories will just cause fat gains.

No, he's not contradicting himself, because the two pieces of advice are being offered to two entirely different groups of people.

On the one hand, there is GOMAD, which is recommended to men who are very skinny. Fat gain is acknowledged, and this is recognised as an inevitable and necessary part of helping that skinny dude make rapid initial progress.

On the other hand is an article written for people who are not willing to accept the same degree of fat gain. It is indeed a mistake to eat too much if you want to 'gain weight without gaining fat' (that's from the article, an important qualification which you seem to be ignoring).

You suggested the one guy eat a minimum of 5000 calories a day, and one day you were proud of him for eating 9000 calories? You definitely had a change of heart.

Nope, because in this case bluestreak's number one priority was to gain weight quickly. He accepted that fat gain would come with it, but was happy to deal with that after gaining the weight. Had bluestreak told Mehdi "I do not want to gain any body fat", Mehdi's diet advice would not have included GOMAD.

[mjh]

Look at his first mistake.

Looks an awful lot like you did say he made a mistake.

By 'mistake' he was referring to the headings used by Mehdi at the beginning of that article. He wasn't saying that there was a mistake on Mehdi's part (aside from saying that Mehdi's contradicting himself, of course).