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[jpez]

Steroids are just a part of high level athletic competition, especially strength sports. It isn't cheating if everyone does it.

It's cheating if it's against the rules. In fact, that's the definition of cheating.

It isn't cheating if you don't get caught.

It's cheating without being caught.

[KyleAaron]

All drug-free... because drugs hadn't been invented yet. Even protein powder didn't exist until 1950. Melvin Wells (top right) didn't even have a gym - just rocks in his garage.

All they had was heavy lifting and good food.

Incidentally, bodybuilders in competition were required to display their athleticism by tumbles and the like.




You think Cutler and Coleman can do the splits, a handstand or a cartwheel?

[Portillo]

^ Flex Wheeler and Kai Greene are modern day bodybuilders who are flexible.

[ArshNZ]

dammnnnnnnnnnnnnn.....

http://www.tmuscle.com/pi.do?id=1799548

[RexRomano]

dammnnnnnnnnnnnnn.....

http://www.tmuscle.com/pi.do?id=1799548

I'm sure she put a lot of time, money, effort and juice into looking like that. I'm sure she's sacrificed menstruating for years to earn that physique.

But that's just not for me, or, i suspect, very many other men.

[David]

All drug-free... because drugs hadn't been invented yet. Even protein powder didn't exist until 1950. Melvin Wells (top right) didn't even have a gym - just rocks in his garage.

All they had was heavy lifting and good food.

Incidentally, bodybuilders in competition were required to display their athleticism by tumbles and the like.




You think Cutler and Coleman can do the splits, a handstand or a cartwheel?

In my humble opinion, these people represent superior athletes to what we have today in many/most of the 'pro' ranks. They look great rather than over-inflated. And the only thing they relied on was good ole fashion hard work and good food.

[itsbruce]

vy lifting and good food.

Incidentally, bodybuilders in competition were required to display their athleticism by tumbles and the like.
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You think Cutler and Coleman can do the splits, a handstand or a cartwheel?

Many of the early bodybuilders aimed for a classical ideal body shape. The old Greeks and Romans would have admired them but would be pretty horrified by what has come after. They saw sport and athleticism as a way of building not just the ideal man but the ideal warrior; the specialised and over-developed bodybuilders of today would have been even more useless in an ancient army than they would be in a modern one.

[kidsoftheblackhole]

the specialised and over-developed bodybuilders of today would have been even more useless in an ancient army than they would be in a modern one.

why? some BBers are actually strong.

[itsbruce]

Strong in which context? How far can they jog with full pack? How far could they throw a spear or javelin? How well could they ride a horse and shoulder a lance? How much faster and further does an arrow fly if you are twice as strong as is necessary to draw the bow? (Answer to that last question is "not one tiny little bit").

There is a point up to which strength training and body building contribute to all of those, a point where it ceases to make a difference (see final question above) and a point beyond which they create an exaggerated physique which is actually a hindrance.

The Greeks saw athleticism as a means to an end. Modern powerlifting and bodybuilding, like many other modern athletic pursuits, are ends in themselves. That's the difference.

Personally, I find the balanced physique of the classical athlete more admirable. Johnnie Jackson doesn't give a f*ck what I think and nor should he.

[Teak]

Strong in which context? How far can they jog with full pack? How far could they throw a spear or javelin? How well could they ride a horse and shoulder a lance? How much faster and further does an arrow fly if you are twice as strong as is necessary to draw the bow? (Answer to that last question is "not one tiny little bit").

There is a point up to which strength training and body building contribute to all of those, a point where it ceases to make a difference (see final question above) and a point beyond which they create an exaggerated physique which is actually a hindrance.

The Greeks saw athleticism as a means to an end. Modern powerlifting and bodybuilding, like many other modern athletic pursuits, are ends in themselves. That's the difference.

Personally, I find the balanced physique of the classical athlete more admirable. Johnnie Jackson doesn't give a f*ck what I think and nor should he.

I don't think this is true but it is a valid debate. Plato has Socrates debating whether to be beautiful is 'to be appropriate.' Using this argument you may be right, being strong may be what is appropriate to being a traditional 'man,' i.e. physical labour and war etc. Kant defines it better talking about dependent and independent beauty, the latter being things like poetry and abstract art I guess.

Maybe by this measure they'd consider powerlifters more 'beautiful' than BBers? Or maybe the point is just who looks the strongest? A big no-homo needed for this whole thing.

[Wellhairedbeast]

The bent press is something i would love to try at some point, it looks pretty uncomfortable though.

[winter1]

Jill Mills WSW.

[Rugger]

This. I get shivers just thinking about it, in my opinion the best (and most emotional) moment in the 2008 Olympics. A lifetime of dedication comes down to one moment, especially amazing when you consider that Steiner had the focus to continue training after his wife died less than a year before.

Anyone that doesn't enjoy watching weightlifting just doesn't understand or appreciate what is going on. The shoot out between Steiner and Chigishev was pure drama.



From another angle.