saw a weird thing in rips starting stength vid

[fawkes]

ive been watching rips starting strength dvd and i noticed something weird everyone he teachs to squat has their but tuck at the bottom of the squat its really weird he never even mentions it to them. i just thought it was weird when he says they have good form u can see their butts tuck under at the bottom of the squat for most of them it doesnt look like much but its still there. any one got opinions on this?

[lovestolift]

Rip doesn't seem to think a little butt wink is a terrible thing. If it were excessive to the point of risking injury then he'd certainly mention it.

[cripmeister]

If coach Ripp doesn't worry about it neither should we If you check the video clip on http://stronglifts.com/how-to-squat-with-proper-technique-fix-common-problems/ you'll see that Boris Bachman has some buttwink going on.

[DeadStrength]

There are a couple things here and there that he doesn't really mention, like the bent wrists supporting the barbells on most of the girls when they squat. At the weights they're using it might not be so much of a problem, but still.

[JasonLB]

A little bit of butt wink isn't that big of a deal at all -- Rip usually call those who do make a big deal about it "butt-wink Nazis." Frankly, people take form cues too a ridiculous extreme (e.g., don't let your knees go too far forward; sit back, not down; keep your weight on your heels; etc., etc.). Too much butt wink -- when it actual becomes a safety issue -- is incredibly obvious. What usually gets called a problem isn't anything of the sort, and, more importantly, telling someone to deload and start over because of a little butt wink is just holding that person back.

[eLvarouza]

He does tell a few people to stay tighter. He doesn't correct bent wrists because there are more important points to deal with first.

[DeadStrength]

He doesn't correct bent wrists because there are more important points to deal with first.

I agree for the people he's training, and I'm sure it's something that he would correct at some point for them. The only way I think this introduces a problem is for the people who are looking at the video as their sole instruction. It could be misleading for some people trying to mimic the form in the vid.

[JasonLB]

I assume he actually devotes some time in the video to directly addressing correct arm/wrist position?

[lovestolift]

I assume he actually devotes some time in the video to directly addressing correct arm/wrist position?

I can't remember if he does or not, but I think the assumption is that you will also own the book, and that this is just a way to see the cues in action.

[DeadStrength]

I assume he actually devotes some time in the video to directly addressing correct arm/wrist position?

In the initial discussion of form he does. However, once it starts going through everyone doing the exercise he never (at least to my memory) comments on it when then wrists are bent. Some of the people with bent wrists he even says stuff like "perfect" or "that's exactly the way you want to be when you unrack the weight" b/c the rest of their form looks good and he doesn't pay attention to their wrist position.

It's not a huge deal, I just think that if you only have the video to go by and don't read a forum or something, you might not realize you are positioning your wrists incorrectly. Wasn't trying to make a hug deal out of it, lol, just mentioning it as one thing in the video that is not mentioned every time it's incorrect.

[eLvarouza]

The DVD is a supplement to the book, and wrist/elbow/arm positioning are discussed at length in the book.

[DeadStrength]

The DVD is a supplement to the book, and wrist/elbow/arm positioning are discussed at length in the book.

I know. I'm just sure there are some people who go "hey, there's a dvd, screw the book." And even though it's a supplement you'd think for an instructional DVD he would point those things out, even if they're relatively small. Ultimately the DVD is nice (though not necessary), the book is indispensable.