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Skinny people are afraid of getting "fat".

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Re: Skinny people are afraid of getting "fat".

Postby Rugger » Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:26 am


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JCedolia wrote:Rugger I know this is off subject but what part of Bc are you from? I am going to live in Kicking Horse for the winter.


I live around Kelowna. Are you working at the resort?
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Re: Skinny people are afraid of getting "fat".

Postby JCedolia » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:40 am

Rugger wrote:
JCedolia wrote:Rugger I know this is off subject but what part of Bc are you from? I am going to live in Kicking Horse for the winter.


I live around Kelowna. Are you working at the resort?

No I work logging all summer long and take the winters off to ski
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Re: Skinny people are afraid of getting "fat".

Postby s0ku » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:06 am

The bottom line is that your strength gains will not be their best unless you are in a caloric surplus. I trained my first 5 weeks of StrongLifts at the same weight and in a caloric deficit, and I saw very little muscle mass gain, if any. My strength did increase, and what muscle I did have became more defined; however, my strength gains started to taper off and each week and the lifts became more of a challenge. In fact, the same calories became insufficient to maintain what I was beginning to build, so I started to actually lose weight at that calorie number. Ultimately, I changed my diet to keep up the pace of gains. I had to. I now eat in a slight caloric surplus, and I surprise myself every week with what I'm capable of. Honestly. And with the additional muscle mass, I find it very difficult to keep the weight gains every week. It gets harder and harder.

The hardest pill to swallow is knowing that as you get "big," not fat, it gets substantially easier to lose any weight you put on because your muscle size increases. Simply put, bigger muscles mean quicker natural weight loss. It's that straightforward. You burn more calories with more muscle mass. Keep this in mind as you get stronger, because you have to adjust your diet accordingly. This is why resistance training is important for women as well, even though some are hesitant because of potential muscle size gains. But potential is the operative word in that instance.

In the end, know that what you should do depends on your goals. Do you want to be really skinny but really fit? Do you want to add a little muscle mass or significant muscle mass? We can give you more definitive answers knowing this. But, for now, know that you can bulk up slowly, but also know that how slowly you gain body mass can be proportional to how slowly you gain strength. I maintained the same weight for 5 weeks of training, and it impaired my strength gains. I wanted every hour in the gym to be fully taken advantage of, so I had to adjust my diet. I now try to put on half a pound to a pound a week. Presently, I surprise myself each week with what I'm capable of, and that's due to a caloric surplus. And I'm still skinny to average in weight. I am in no way fat, but I can't deny that my bodyfat has gone up slightly, but that is accredited to very high carbohydrate foods -- it's a challenge to eat clean and easily meet a caloric surplus, for me.

The last thing worth note is the Cunningham equation. It helped me find that point where I eat in a caloric surplus without going overboard. Or, in other words, eating enough for strength gains without putting on much fat. http://stronglifts.com/forum/the-cunningham-equation-an-accurate-way-to-predict-calories-t13712.html
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Re: Skinny people are afraid of getting "fat".

Postby Rugger » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:47 am

JCedolia wrote:
Rugger wrote:
JCedolia wrote:Rugger I know this is off subject but what part of Bc are you from? I am going to live in Kicking Horse for the winter.


I live around Kelowna. Are you working at the resort?

No I work logging all summer long and take the winters off to ski


Right on, that sounds awesome.
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Re: Skinny people are afraid of getting "fat".

Postby killerdude494949 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:58 am

I am of the opinion that the fear of getting fatter during a bulk is mostly if not entirely mental. Especially if you are 158 pounds at 6'2''. I was one of them.

I used to be 240 pounds at 6'3''. No muscle at all. Over the course of 2 years I dropped to 190 (gained a little bit of mass too). At that point I wanted to begin beefing up. But the fear of gaining fat was INCREDIBLE. I litterally tricked myself into thinking that if I ate low carb foods at an extremely high intake, id get huge and even leaner. Of course this was not the case, but I managed to gain 50 pounds in 7 months while believing a lie I created. I sure did get fatter, but because I was expecting to get leaner, the placebo effect had me thinking I was actually leaner. If I didn't believe my own lie, I would have never gotten to my current weight now (230). I'm not saying trick yourself, but gaining some fat on top of a lot of muscle is necessary, not going to give you a Homer Simpson belly, hardly noticeable and you will lose it quickly. I'm still not as lean as I used to be but I can't even notice, and no one else does.
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