So whats the deal with steroids?

[Portillo]

Im not completely against steroids. Ive never used them, but i hear that they can be good for getting past your genetic potential. Sometimes i imagine what a heavy squatting and steroids routine would do to the body! Also, i would never want to abuse steroids, as thats when most of the long term side effects happen.

Whats everyones thoughts on them?

[Mehdi]

Don't use them until you got your training & diet down first and been consistent at it for at least 5 years.

Once you get used to steroids, it's very hard to train without it if you don't got the basics down. Lots of guys in the gym I trained 5 years where on the roids. Didn't know how to train/eat well. Lost motivation all the time off the cycle. Rarely saw them at all in the gym during winter.

[hardestgainer]

I can understand the temptation, but there's no way I could ever go anywhere near them for the following reasons.

1. I hate needles and the thought of injecting myself makes me feel sick.
2. Whatever I achieve while using steroids won't feel the same as earning it.
3. To be able to keep to the cycles needed for the desired effect, I couldn't afford the required amount of steroids.
4. It's hard to find someone ethical to buy drugs from, I wouldn't know what I'm injecting myself with.
5. If you get the cycles wrong your gains could plunge into reverse.

[atypical1]

This is a pretty hot topic and steroids are probably one of the most misunderstood drugs out there. There's a lot of bad information on the subject so it's very hard to have a really informed opinion considering that everything seems to contradict each other.

I do believe that the health problems that are associated with them are, for the most part, wrong. I don't think they cause heart problems, raging, death, etc. I think there are other causes for things that aren't being addressed. I do think that men and women have different reactions to them and that the use for women is actually fairly risky.

I would never do them because I can't justify the cost. I want to be bigger but not at the risk of either getting arrested or paying through the nose for "legal" steroids. But if they were legal and the cost came down then perhaps I might try them.

The biggest problem that I hear about is that once you're taking them you're hooked. It would be really hard to get your squat up to amazing levels then lose 100 lbs off of it once you stop taking them. That's a tough thing for the ego to take.

Watch the movie "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" if you want a pretty unbiased view on steroid use. It's truly a fascinating film.

james

[coreJack]

Don't use them until you got your training & diet down first and been consistent at it for at least 5 years.

Great advice, Mehdi. I used to think that I would need steroids to get any bigger. With training and diet, I gained 20lbs in a little less than a year, and I'm still gaining - in my mid-30s! [OK, a fair bit of this has been fat, but I'll worry about cutting later.]

So if someone trains right and eats right for 5 years, they may decide that they're big enough and not pursue steroids, or may learn a lot more about roids and decide they're not worth the risk. And if they do decide to try roids, they'll have good habits to fully take advantage of the hormone boost.

[Barry06GT]

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My question is this:

When women age and enter menopause, doctors are really quick to start hormone replenishment.

When men age, doctors either do not know what to do, or don't care to do anything.
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[Dave70]

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My question is this:

When men age, doctors either do not know what to do, or don't care to do anything.
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Well, more a statement than a question, but thats not 100% correct in any case. Many doctors are begining to open their eyes to testosterone replacement therapy, generaly for men over 45. I guess its just a case of finding one with a sympathetic ear, an open mind and then pleading your case.

Personally I prefer the eggs, steak and heavy compound's method of boosting test to having a hypo jabbed in my arse every other week.

[Barry06GT]

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My question is this:

When men age, doctors either do not know what to do, or don't care to do anything.
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Well, more a statement than a question, but thats not 100% correct in any case. Many doctors are begining to open their eyes to testosterone replacement therapy, generaly for men over 45. I guess its just a case of finding one with a sympathetic ear, an open mind and then pleading your case.

Personally I prefer the eggs, steak and heavy compound's method of boosting test to having a hypo jabbed in my arse every other week.

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Hypo?!

I was thinking more along the lines of a patch on the thigh.
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[Dave70]

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My question is this:

When men age, doctors either do not know what to do, or don't care to do anything.
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Well, more a statement than a question, but thats not 100% correct in any case. Many doctors are begining to open their eyes to testosterone replacement therapy, generaly for men over 45. I guess its just a case of finding one with a sympathetic ear, an open mind and then pleading your case.

Personally I prefer the eggs, steak and heavy compound's method of boosting test to having a hypo jabbed in my arse every other week.

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Hypo?!

I was thinking more along the lines of a patch on the thigh.
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Yeah, I think it is a patch, Im not sure what the delivery system is though. Sorry, whenever I think of test I visualize some guy locked in his bedroom pumping oily shit into his glutes through a 23 guage needle..

[Barry06GT]

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Hey, I'm with you on the eggs, steak, and steel.

I don't want my (female) doctor testing my test.

I could just see her looking up from the report and saying: "so how is you love life with the misses?" or, "are you having a hard time getting it up?"

No Doc, its not my johnson I am thinking about, I want big arms and not to have to work hard get them...
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[thefinalsql]

I hear bee pollen is a good vegetable source of steroids.

[Portillo]

Watch the movie "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" if you want a pretty unbiased view on steroid use. It's truly a fascinating film.

Yeah i want to watch that.

[Vlad]

Watch the movie "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" if you want a pretty unbiased view on steroid use. It's truly a fascinating film.

On December 14, 2008, Mike Bell, brother of director Chris Bell, who was prominently featured in the film, died at 37.

[coroho]

Watch the movie "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" if you want a pretty unbiased view on steroid use. It's truly a fascinating film.

On December 14, 2008, Mike Bell, brother of director Chris Bell, who was prominently featured in the film, died at 37.

"The death of former Poughkeepsie resident Mike Bell at age 37 was caused by a heart attack brought on by an accidental inhalation of difluoroethane, a chemical used in Dust-Off, a household maintenance product, the Wrestling Observer Newsletter reported on Wednesday.

The Orange County, Calif. coroners's office confirmed the cause of death as Acute 1,1 difluoroethane inhalation."

[iCookie]

Sure. I bet he died from steroids. That excuse is just a coverup.