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Postby jaydot511 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:38 pm


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Not sure why? but I've been working on strong lifts 5x5 for about 3 months now... and my recovery time seems to increase there for it takes longer for my soreness to diminish. Is that completely normal? I take protein/amino acids/ glutamine etc. whats wrong?
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Postby Mehdi » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:41 pm

Need more info.

  • Stats? (strength, height, body-weight, etc)

  • diet: calorie intake, average day how does it look like, protein intake

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  • stress: how's that

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Postby tarun » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:49 pm

Yeah we need more information lol..if you don't lift for a while and then you start, then yes, you will be sore for some time but it shouldn't carry on for like...3 months.
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Postby jaydot511 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:06 am

Mehdi:
Need more info.

  • Stats? (strength, height, body-weight, etc)

  • diet: calorie intake, average day how does it look like, protein intake

  • sleep: how much per day, on average week, etc

  • other sports you do?

  • stress: how's that

  • routine you followed (added exercises, add sets, reps, ?)


 
I'm about 5"6 23 yrs old, 150lbs. I bench about 185lbs, squats 135lbs. every other workout is moderate. Morning: oats, fruits, whole wheat bread w. peanut butter. lunch: tuna sandwich w.whole wheat and carrots. diff. types of nuts throughout the day as a snack . dinner: steak/chicken w. whole wheat pasta  or another tuna sandwhich. and protein shake about 3 scoops (72grams protein).
sleep: 7 - 8hours (same each day). Havent been stressed lately. I follow stronglifts 5x5. This lack of recovery has started recently... ive been on the program for about 3 months.
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Postby Young Athlete » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:19 am

Every workout should be intense your bench shouldn't be that much above your squat. Think to yourself are you really doing the program because squating 3X a week and having a higher bench press doesn't make sense. you could add about 5 more lbs to your body weight. (I'm 5'6" and am 123lbs you bastard)
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Postby mutt » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:33 am

It gets hard.. starts to take longer to recover, and becomes mentally draining. Keep eating enough calories, sleeping, and doing what you are doing. You probably do much more right than me in terms of diet and sleep, but the same thing happened to me after a few months and I'm still dealing with it.
Keep pushing, you'll start stalling on your lifts as you become more drained.
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Postby Mehdi » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:04 pm

If you're on the program since 3 months, your squat should be higher than 135lbs. 135lbs is what you have after about 6 weeks if you start with an empty barbell. So you either didn't increase the weight every workout, or missed workout, or didn't squat 3x/week, something like that. The soreness is your body that hasn't adapted, you've done something wrong with the program, showing us your log would explain.
After 3 months your squat should be much higher than your bench at 15lbs increase/week.
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Postby pnp_pc » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:17 am

I hear where he is coming from as I after about 7 weeks I have had issues pop up that I hadnt experienced before on other routines. Aches and pains that seem to be fairly persistent as well as the desire to squat heavy 3x a week for 5 heavy sets starts to get to you . The last thing you want is to hurt yourself and be laid up for a few weeks or worse, months. I find that it is not my muscles that are complaining, its my tendons and joints. Of course I should add that I am 40 with 2 small kids, my own business etc etc. We all have our own crosses though.

Last week after my second workout I was feeling especially wiped so I took and extra day. The workout I had next was the best in a couple weeks in terms of poundage, form , and ease of effort. So I thought I would take an xtra day again . Today I lifted and the same weights I squatted with ease Saturday seemed about 30 lbs heavier lol. WTF!
And I didnt do the deadlift or chins just squat and ohp. I may go back down later tonight and at least do the chins. Is it ok if the 5x5 take us to failure ? Or should we stay at teh same weight if that is the case and add when we can do 5 without failing?
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Postby Mehdi » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:23 am

The strength you gain goes away as fast as it came if you don't workout. That's why many fear "layoffs", getting back into the game is harder then freeing time to workout 3x/week.
Lower the weight if necessary (20-30%), and build the weight again each workout. But find consistency.
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