Stronglifts Olympics 2009: Final results.

[DaveT]

As a NZ team, would we need to come up with a name? All Blacks are rugby, All Whites are soccer, Tall Blacks are basketball, Silver Ferns are netball so lifting would be......

All Racks
Six Packs
Sore Backs

[dylanamus]

All Racks hmmm I thought we weren't sub-dividing into genders.

[LiftingNerd]

U-S-A.

[Vlad]

It seems like there are not so may people in the EU team. So I join EU then.

I see no reason why it is not allowed to use in this competition estimated 1RM's. Particularly in light of the fact that the results will be normalised with the use of Wilks coefficients. This is just an estimation.

However, if I would suggest to use a conservative estimation of 1 RM's. For example: 1x5 RM is 91%, 3x5 - 89% and 5x5 - 87% of 1 RM. Everybody will be able to beat these estimations.

IMO, these estimates will be much more fair to the beginners (like myself) who are not ready to test their 1 RM's.

[natew]

Canada


Cool stuff mjh. I already feel a jolt to my motivation.


edit - I'm kind of against the idea of estimations as well.

[summerss]

Using estimation would just encourage people to use their imagination too much. Instead of wilks coefficients maybe we could have 2 leaderboards, one for absolute strength and one for relative strength, unless we want to split us into classes like in the strongest man challenge. A few thoughts anyway.

[Solaril]

I'll join the Canada's team!

[joesterizer]

I'll join the Canada's team!

Great! That's three now by my count.

[mjh]

vlad: I'd personally rather have competitions like this use only weight that someone has actually lifted. Not because I think we'll get cheaters, but personally I'd never claim a lift that I hadn't completed in the gym.

summerss: as Mehdi mentioned upthread, it's good to just get it up and running now, we can worry about details later. Personally I'd like to keep things as simple as possible, but there's no reason why there can't be multiple "events".

If there's someone you can think of who should be in your team, post in their training log. There's a few guys I can think of who seldom wander out of the training logs area and might not have seen this.

[Vlad]

vlad: I'd personally rather have competitions like this use only weight that someone has actually lifted. Not because I think we'll get cheaters, but personally I'd never claim a lift that I hadn't completed in the gym.

- I get your point, have no problem with it. I never ment that one should claim the estimated 1RM to be one's true 1RM.

- My point, however, was (maybe not clearly stated) that we are going to judge, for example, who is stronger: a person who squats 1.5 BW at a BW of 60 kg or a person who squats 1.2 BW at a BW of 110 kg. This is not very clear and we agoing to use Wilks coefficients. Actually, the second person squatting only 1.2 BW is stronger according the Wilks formula. But if we are going to make this judgement, why should we not determine who is stronger: a person who squats 150 kg for 1 rep or a person who squats 145 kg 5x5 (clearly the second person is much stronger)?

- Again, if it's too complicated or it's an issue that people simply cannot accept, it's alright for me. I'll compete with my 5RM's (do not care about 1RM's at the moment or in the near future).

[RobCosimo]

If you can lift something 5 times, why can't you lift something slightly heavier once? I don't understand.

[Bluegreyhound]

I think actual lifts whether 1RM,5RM or 10RM should be used. No estimates for 1RM. For the average Joe here, the estimate 1RM multiplier will only add say up to 10kg max to the actual load number. I think that it's a small enough margin in the grand scheme of things i.e. when someone like rbtrout or Jim Slade comes in and lifts more than twice what I lift as a warm-up weight. It's all a bit of fun anyway.

[dylanamus]

I guess you have to appreciate that a lot of members of this forum have no prior experience with compound lifts, nor experience pushing their body to failure while lifting substantial amounts of weight. It's a daunting concept for someone who remains unconfident or dubious about their technique. I know it took me around 5 months before I was able to get anywhere trying a 1RM on my deadlift.

I'm not supporting the idea of 1RM estimates though. I'm just throwing the guys with no 1RM records a bone.

Vlad: perhaps you will feel more confident to attempt a 3,2 or even a 1RM by December. There are many benefits to doing it, such as learning what your strengths and weaknesses are in general and regarding the intricacies of technique for each lift. It also gives you a better picture for goal-setting and boosts your confidence when you go back to volume work. Aside from that, it has a solid role in actual strength development - as employed by the Texas Method, among others.

[DarkShadow]

How are you guys picking your teams? Where your parents originated from or where you were born/lived all your life?

[mjh]

How are you guys picking your teams? Where your parents originated from or where you were born/lived all your life?

It's up to the individual. A few guys here are in teams of their current residence and not their birth country.