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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby dylanamus » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:09 am


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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby Vlad » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:02 am

I think the new system looks really good!

In order to involve even more people into the battle for the podium, I would suggest to introduce also competitions in the three individual lifts as well (both absolute and for BW using Wilks).

I think it would be a lot of fun to introduce a virtual powerlifting competition, but in a different thread. The "problem" with this competition is that people are allowed to compete here with their "all time" best results, with records set a long time ago.

In a virtual powerlifting competition, we could set a specified time period (maybe a quarter year), and only the results shown during this period would count for the competition. Then we could have another competition next quarter, and so on.
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby Vlad » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:54 am

To make the virtual powerlifting competition even more "real" we could also set a condition that all of the three lifts are performed during the same day. This will probably mean that the lifts will not be as strong as when performed on separate occasions. But this is the reality of a powerlifting competition: people often show weaker results than under the ideal conditions.
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby summerss » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:16 pm

Vlad wrote:To make the virtual powerlifting competition even more "real" we could also set a condition that all of the three lifts are performed during the same day. This will probably mean that the lifts will not be as strong as when performed on separate occasions. But this is the reality of a powerlifting competition: people often show weaker results than under the ideal conditions.

I like this idea, I would suggest another thread for this where it lasts for 1 week.
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby DuckVader » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:52 pm

I haven't been to the gym since May now, so even though I am at the top, you can delete my entry. I doubt I will get into power lifting again. I have started a new lifestyle and have since lost over 30 lbs and I am in better shape/healthier than I have been since 1999. There is no going back for me, so unless something really changes again for me in the future, I will no longer be doing this kind of stuff.

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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby Westsider » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:04 pm

summerss wrote:
Vlad wrote:To make the virtual powerlifting competition even more "real" we could also set a condition that all of the three lifts are performed during the same day. This will probably mean that the lifts will not be as strong as when performed on separate occasions. But this is the reality of a powerlifting competition: people often show weaker results than under the ideal conditions.


I completely agree with this.
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby Littlesimongeorge » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:12 pm

Vlad wrote:I think the new system looks really good!

In order to involve even more people into the battle for the podium, I would suggest to introduce also competitions in the three individual lifts as well (both absolute and for BW using Wilks).

I think it would be a lot of fun to introduce a virtual powerlifting competition, but in a different thread. The "problem" with this competition is that people are allowed to compete here with their "all time" best results, with records set a long time ago.

In a virtual powerlifting competition, we could set a specified time period (maybe a quarter year), and only the results shown during this period would count for the competition. Then we could have another competition next quarter, and so on.


I thought we were meant to be using recent numbers, I posed the question of old personal bests the other day. I benched 363lbs about 5 years ago, but I don't use that figure now.

Are you basically saying that some may be using very old totals in this comp?
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby doit » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:49 pm

Littlesimongeorge wrote:
Vlad wrote:I think the new system looks really good!

In order to involve even more people into the battle for the podium, I would suggest to introduce also competitions in the three individual lifts as well (both absolute and for BW using Wilks).

I think it would be a lot of fun to introduce a virtual powerlifting competition, but in a different thread. The "problem" with this competition is that people are allowed to compete here with their "all time" best results, with records set a long time ago.

In a virtual powerlifting competition, we could set a specified time period (maybe a quarter year), and only the results shown during this period would count for the competition. Then we could have another competition next quarter, and so on.


I thought we were meant to be using recent numbers, I posed the question of old personal bests the other day. I benched 363lbs about 5 years ago, but I don't use that figure now.

Are you basically saying that some may be using very old totals in this comp?


have to be a lift you did while you were in this competition, then it may be as old as ever and still be registered here.
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby Mehdi » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:14 pm

The rules say:"We'll remove you from the list if you haven't been active on the forum during the last 2 months."

I've removed several guys from the list who's log were not active.

Is it that big of a deal for a lift to be made within 3 months? I agree with the 363lbs from 5y ago, but I don't think anyone did that here. Why is it important to be that accurate? Trying to get your point of view, please elaborate.

As far as the other comp, 3 lifts the same day, feel free to start a separate thread for that if you want to.
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby Mehdi » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:50 pm

By the way, it's full of programmers here. Who could develop some tool that would automate this whole process thing?
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby summerss » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:02 pm

Mehdi wrote:The rules say:"We'll remove you from the list if you haven't been active on the forum during the last 2 months."

I've removed several guys from the list who's log were not active.

Is it that big of a deal for a lift to be made within 3 months? I agree with the 363lbs from 5y ago, but I don't think anyone did that here. Why is it important to be that accurate? Trying to get your point of view, please elaborate.

As far as the other comp, 3 lifts the same day, feel free to start a separate thread for that if you want to.

I think this situation has arisen because people have firstly wanted Wilks based scores. This has lead to requests for people to readjust their figures after losing weight to keep the competition fair, which causes even more confusion when people weighed more when they made their deadlift max than they did with their squat max. Hope this clears things up.

I have some fairly limited programming experience and I'll happily try and put something together. Anyone else is welcome to create a better program as I'm not that good at it. It will take me some time though.
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby dylanamus » Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:59 pm

When you lose a substantial amount of weight, you would usually lose a bit of strength. I am currently chasing back my old PRs I set a few months ago at +5-8kg. I have no intention of submitting my new body weight until I set new 1RMs that correlate to it. I will probably just post next weeks 1RM session (Texas Method) results, regardless of their inferiority to what is already set in the first post here.

Seeing as this competition still factors in total weight lifted for your weight division AND the Wilks score is based on the total of all three lifts against your body weight, it is only fair if all three lifts were set at the same body weight and within a month or two of one another too. This can be reenforced by mods by checking logs, although I would personally rather rely on honesty, which I don't expect to be an issue on this forum.

And like Medhi has implied, it's just in the name of fun and games anyway!
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby Vlad » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:56 pm

Mehdi wrote:Is it that big of a deal for a lift to be made within 3 months? I agree with the 363lbs from 5y ago, but I don't think anyone did that here. Why is it important to be that accurate? Trying to get your point of view, please elaborate.


I think I was misunderstood when I wrote: the "problem" with this thread in a previous post. I used the quote signs for the word problem to show that I did not mean that there was a problem. I can see it was very confusing.

Anyway, for this thread, according to the rules (and in my opinion as well) it is totally acceptable to use the results set any time in the past if it is documented in the training log in the forum. This thread is like a "hall of fame" which shows the best ever results of the forum members.

My suggestion was to organize a virtual powerlifting competition which is a totally different thing, and of course it should be in a different thread. I suggested a three month period since I thought that setting a specific date (or even a week) for the competition would be very inconveniet for most of the people.
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby holvoetn » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:04 pm

Glad to see this clarification, Vlad.
It surely clears out a lot of the concerns ;)
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Re: Stronglifts Strongest Man

Postby Littlesimongeorge » Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:40 pm

Weight, Squats, Deads and Wilks updated
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