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Taking the “Dead” out of “Deadlift”

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Re: Taking the “Dead” out of “Deadlift”

Postby coreJack » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:28 am


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luco wrote:I was gonna let him go for the crappy instructional vid (not like he's the only one out there), but his responses just ticked me off a bit.. Arrogant, stupid or just stubborn?

I'm going with 'ignorance'.

Haha, he just explained the spotter setup: "One person on each side and one person directly behind lifter."

I'm with luco - I'd pay to see one of those side spotters actually do something on a failed lift. He may be protecting his low back (at the expense of his knees and the desired training stimulus), but what about the backs of those side spotters? Even if they could move fast enough, they are definitely at risk for ejecting some disks.
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Re: Taking the “Dead” out of “Deadlift”

Postby atypical1 » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:30 am

Ok, we've probably beaten this guy up enough.

My recommendation is to simply take it as a lesson learned and simply move on. We're not going to change the way that he teaches (unfortunately) and all we can do is continue doing things the right way.

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Re: Taking the “Dead” out of “Deadlift”

Postby LiftingNerd » Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:02 am

DeadStrength wrote:You guys should check out the discussion in the last few posts of the comments. Obviously I can't verify if the NSCA teaches the deadlift like that but I would be absolutely stunned if they did.

I wonder if the NSCA also taught him the proper way to ride a bike.


I wanted to find you the answer to this, as an NSCA member, but they took all of the instructional videos on their site on various lifts and started charging to view them. So instead I opened up an intriguing text, "Essentials of Strength and Conditioning", written by the NSCA (same text this guy would have needed to study to pass the CSCS). The answer to your question is, no. The NSCA does not teach the deadlift like this (though the guy in the pictures does look like a massive tool). I'd also like to note that in a 600 page book, there are less than 30 pages dedicated to the programming of strength training. Great source for learning about the body, not so much for lifting weights.
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Re: Taking the “Dead” out of “Deadlift”

Postby DeadStrength » Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:31 am

LiftingNerd wrote:
DeadStrength wrote:I wanted to find you the answer to this, as an NSCA member, but they took all of the instructional videos on their site on various lifts and started charging to view them. So instead I opened up an intriguing text, "Essentials of Strength and Conditioning", written by the NSCA (same text this guy would have needed to study to pass the CSCS). The answer to your question is, no. The NSCA does not teach the deadlift like this (though the guy in the pictures does look like a massive tool). I'd also like to note that in a 600 page book, there are less than 30 pages dedicated to the programming of strength training. Great source for learning about the body, not so much for lifting weights.


Yeah, I didn't think so. Honestly I was so stupefied reading that guy say that's how the NSCA taught the lift. I'm really glad you could clarify that. Thanks for the info. :)
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Re: Taking the “Dead” out of “Deadlift”

Postby wobbles » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:42 pm

He may have taken the 'dead' out of the lift, but he put the 'wrong' back in.
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Re: Taking the “Dead” out of “Deadlift”

Postby Wellhairedbeast » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:57 pm

I would say he HAS put the "dead" into deadlift.

It's worrying when someone is misguided but won't take on board advice, im not only worried for his safety but that of his "followers" on the website.
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Re: Taking the “Dead” out of “Deadlift”

Postby DeadStrength » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:00 pm

Wellhairedbeast wrote:It's worrying when someone is misguided but won't take on board advice, im not only worried for his safety but that of his "followers" on the website.


Precisely. Regardless of this particular video, it's one thing for someone to injure themselves, it's another thing to teach others to injure themselves.
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