Comments on: What Pulling Back on the Deadlift Really Means http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/ Build Muscle & Lose Fat Through Strength Training Sun, 14 Dec 2008 00:24:18 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Mehdi http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1955 Mehdi Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:32:02 +0000 http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1955 You're welcome Catfish. Glad to read the deadlift technique works. You’re welcome Catfish. Glad to read the deadlift technique works.

]]> By: catfish http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1948 catfish Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:11:58 +0000 http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1948 I hit the deadlift today and had no problem doing max reps on about 70% of one RM. Before, as I would get to the end of the set, my lower back would tighten up. Today I really focused on putting the bar close to my shins (touching actually) at the start of the lift - before was 3-4 inches away or so, and just stood up, lifting with my legs and pushing my heels down. No problems today and I will keep working on this. Thanks! I hit the deadlift today and had no problem doing max reps on about 70% of one RM. Before, as I would get to the end of the set, my lower back would tighten up. Today I really focused on putting the bar close to my shins (touching actually) at the start of the lift – before was 3-4 inches away or so, and just stood up, lifting with my legs and pushing my heels down. No problems today and I will keep working on this.

Thanks!

]]> By: Mehdi http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1838 Mehdi Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:04:38 +0000 http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1838 Catfish, focus on: -keeping chest foward -keeping shoulders back & down -loooking forward When you do all of that, the lower back will stay neutral. Next focus on pushing from the heels & bringing the hips forward. Keep me updated. Good luck. Catfish, focus on:
-keeping chest foward
-keeping shoulders back & down
-loooking forward

When you do all of that, the lower back will stay neutral. Next focus on pushing from the heels & bringing the hips forward. Keep me updated. Good luck.

]]> By: catfish http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1826 catfish Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:44:07 +0000 http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1826 Thanks for the response, let me clarify what I meant by "tight"... My lower back felt like I was getting ready to strain and/or get hurt - Tight, like right before a cramp. Now that I'm off my max week, I'm going to spend a few weeks prepping for a big competition by lowering weight/raising reps and I'll work on proper form and technique. I enjoy your stuff, lots of good information! Thanks for the response, let me clarify what I meant by “tight”…

My lower back felt like I was getting ready to strain and/or get hurt – Tight, like right before a cramp.

Now that I’m off my max week, I’m going to spend a few weeks prepping for a big competition by lowering weight/raising reps and I’ll work on proper form and technique.

I enjoy your stuff, lots of good information!

]]> By: Mehdi http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1812 Mehdi Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:47:01 +0000 http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1812 Shoulders & bar positioning probably. Rippetoe avocates bar close to knees/shoulders above the bar. Dave Tate shoulders behind the bar, bar far from knees. Imo, deadlift related questions like "where should shoulders be", "where should hips be", "where should bar be" are useless. It all depends on your bodytype. Long legs vs. short legs - long torso vs. short torso. All of that influence the bar/shoulders/hip relation. Both have deadlifted +600lbs so they know what they're talking about. Dave Tate trains lots of powerlifters. Rippetoe is part of crossfit. The athletes they train are very different. And then there's also the personal experience factor. We tend to advise what worked for us. Read a lot. Practice a lot. Only way to find out. Shoulders & bar positioning probably. Rippetoe avocates bar close to knees/shoulders above the bar. Dave Tate shoulders behind the bar, bar far from knees.

Imo, deadlift related questions like “where should shoulders be”, “where should hips be”, “where should bar be” are useless. It all depends on your bodytype. Long legs vs. short legs – long torso vs. short torso. All of that influence the bar/shoulders/hip relation.

Both have deadlifted +600lbs so they know what they’re talking about. Dave Tate trains lots of powerlifters. Rippetoe is part of crossfit. The athletes they train are very different. And then there’s also the personal experience factor. We tend to advise what worked for us.

Read a lot. Practice a lot. Only way to find out.

]]> By: galapogos http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1811 galapogos Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:35:31 +0000 http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1811 Actually there's some contention on the Mark Rippetoe's direction if you look at the comments there. Apparently Dave Tate disagrees with 2 of the points, and they had a conversation, but he's not publishing it...wonder what the conversation was about... Actually there’s some contention on the Mark Rippetoe’s direction if you look at the comments there. Apparently Dave Tate disagrees with 2 of the points, and they had a conversation, but he’s not publishing it…wonder what the conversation was about…

]]> By: Mehdi http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1810 Mehdi Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:50:32 +0000 http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1810 You're welcome Ali. You’re welcome Ali.

]]> By: Ali http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1809 Ali Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:19:09 +0000 http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1809 Salaam Mehdi Great clarification on the "pull back"- it makes sense now. Salaam Mehdi

Great clarification on the “pull back”- it makes sense now.

]]> By: Mehdi http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1803 Mehdi Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:32:46 +0000 http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1803 I feel flattered that you print the strength training articles & take them with you at the gym, catfish. What do you mean with "your lower back got tight"? As long as your lower back stays neutral, you're bringing the hips forward, keeping the bar close to your body and starting the lift by extending the knees you're ok. Focus on extending the knees at the start of the deadlift. This can be done by pushing from the heels. If needed, curl your toes. About the belt: I never use one. Limit the use of a belt on your max sets. Belts make you stronger & add support to the back. But it's still possible to injure your back if your technique is not right. I feel flattered that you print the strength training articles & take them with you at the gym, catfish.

What do you mean with “your lower back got tight”? As long as your lower back stays neutral, you’re bringing the hips forward, keeping the bar close to your body and starting the lift by extending the knees you’re ok.

Focus on extending the knees at the start of the deadlift. This can be done by pushing from the heels. If needed, curl your toes.

About the belt: I never use one. Limit the use of a belt on your max sets. Belts make you stronger & add support to the back. But it’s still possible to injure your back if your technique is not right.

]]> By: catfish http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1796 catfish Fri, 10 Aug 2007 02:11:43 +0000 http://stronglifts.com/what-pulling-back-on-the-deadlift-really-means/#comment-1796 I hit my max deadlift, or about 95% today. On my heaviest lift (320lbs), my lower back got tight on the first part of the lift, from the ground to my knees. I stopped then because I didn't want to go heavier and hurt myself before a big competition next week... Any tips/ideas on what I can do on that first segment to keep injury away? What are your thoughts on belts? It seems that some folks swear by them and others swear at them. I'm a relative newcomer, have only been lifting since last November, and I enjoy your site. I need to print off your "directions" on proper form (because I am largely self trained) and take them to the gym with me. I hit my max deadlift, or about 95% today. On my heaviest lift (320lbs), my lower back got tight on the first part of the lift, from the ground to my knees. I stopped then because I didn’t want to go heavier and hurt myself before a big competition next week… Any tips/ideas on what I can do on that first segment to keep injury away? What are your thoughts on belts? It seems that some folks swear by them and others swear at them.

I’m a relative newcomer, have only been lifting since last November, and I enjoy your site. I need to print off your “directions” on proper form (because I am largely self trained) and take them to the gym with me.

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